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I'm going to start with Question 0 on Investment Style as its own separate post. The more I think about dimensions and investment style, it comes down to either some type of feature of the company that one is investing in (for example, market capitalization, dividend growth, cash level, insider ownership dimension, etc.) or one's temperament or mandate or preference per individual/institutional investors (e.g., holding period dimension, tax efficiency dimension).

Investment Style

⦁ 1) Holding period dimension (with the dimension being from short to long - i.e., a couple months - short-term gains realized versus long-term gains (due to holding securities for more than 1 year + holding securities for very long periods, e.g. 10 years or more)

⦁ 2) Tax efficiency dimension (high - low) - tax efficient (infrequent trading, with a view toward minimizing taxes) versus non-tax efficient (frequent trading/high turnover to realize capital gains)

⦁ 3) Dividend/dividend growth style - capital allocation by company that favors a dividend payout. Dimension of high dividend declaration by board of directors for a company to none - i.e., no dividend/no payout to shareholders.

⦁ 4) Share buyback companies (companies that eat themselves) versus no share buyback companies - Buyback dimension (high to low/none)

⦁ 5) Microcap/Small cap (market capitalization - e.g., OTC markets) versus Blue chip/S&P 500 (very large companies) - Market Capitalization dimension (small to mega-cap)

⦁ 6) Thinly traded companies (could be large companies on foreign exchanges) versus highly liquid companies (very established mega caps) on stock market exchanges - Liquidity dimension (low to high)

⦁ 7) Domestic companies (e.g., headquartered in country) versus international companies (or companies that sell a lot to international customers) - Geographical Domestic/Foreign dimension

⦁ 8) News/media prominence (companies in the news/making headlines) versus undiscovered companies (companies that do not make headlines/obscure/misunderstood/niche) - Media coverage dimension (high to low)

⦁ 9) Debt (companies that have a lot of debt e.g. utilities, real estate) versus no debt - Debt dimension (high to low/none)

⦁ 10) Cash rich companies (cash/investments on the balance sheet) versus no cash/financing via debt/selling shares to fund its operations - Cash Levels dimension (high to low/none)

⦁ 11) Active (stock picker/securities selector) versus passive investor (e.g., dollar cost average into index funds) - Active-Passive Investor dimension

⦁ 12) Defensive investor (investing to protect principal from being eroded by inflation/preserve principal) versus enterprising investor (active securities selector) - Investment Portfolio Aggressiveness dimension (defensive to enterprising)

⦁ 13) Fundamental Investor versus Story Stock investor (likely due to no earnings/losses for young companies) - Investment Research dimension

⦁ 14) High technology level companies (companies influenced by technological trends, technology sector companies) versus low technology companies (companies that are relatively insulated from technological trends - e.g., tobacco companies) - Technological Trend dimension (high to low)

⦁ 15) Local companies (based near the area of the investor's interest) versus global companies (based internationally, multiple headquarters, etc.) - Investment Locale dimension

⦁ 16) Introspective investment style (reading annual reports, proxies, no conversations with the company management's team - i.e., being an armchair investor) versus extrovert investment style (talking to suppliers, customers, employees, flying to meetings, etc.) - Research Process Orientation Dimension (introspection to extraversion)

⦁ 17) High insider level ownership versus low/no insider level ownership - Insider Ownership dimension (high to low)

⦁ 18) Low CEO pay (relative to company's market cap) versus high CEO pay (e.g., a high CEO to median employee pay ratio) - CEO Compensation dimension (high to low)

⦁ 19) Companies with significant moats (e.g, patents, scale, location) versus non-moat/commodity companies - Moat dimension (high to low)

⦁ 20) High profit margin companies (e.g., hyperscalers, drug companies) versus very low profit margins (e.g., healthcare suppliers, mining companies) - Profit Margin dimension (high to low)

⦁ 21) Dimension of government regulation - companies with a lot of government regulation (e.g., healthcare, banks, utilities) versus companies that do not have a high level of government regulation (e.g., retail, one product company) - Business Regulation Level (high to low)

⦁ 22) High CEO prominence/family-run companies versus low CEO prominence/outsider led companies (i.e., governance by non-family) - Family business/governance dimension (high to low)

⦁ 23) Acquirers (companies that grow via acquisition) versus organic growth companies (no M&A activity) - Growth generation dimension (acquirer to organic growth)

⦁ 24) Financially sensitive companies (companies very sensitive to interest rate risk - e.g., banks, insurers, real estate) versus non-financial companies - Interest Rate sensitivity dimension (high to low)

⦁ 25) Startup investing (very young companies) versus investing in mature/established companies - Company Maturity Level dimension (early to mature)

⦁ 26) Business cycle investing - investing in high growth companies during the growth phase of the business cycle versus investing in companies which are at a trough - Business Cycle dimension (trough to growth)

⦁ 27) Companies with high levels of employee ownership (e.g., stock ownership plans) versus low or no employee ownership - Employee Ownership dimension (high to low)

⦁ 28) Companies which have very high numbers of shareowners (broad shareholder ownership) versus companies that are highly concentrated (held by a small number of shareholders - undiscovered companies) - Shareholder Ownership dimension (high to low)

⦁ 29) Rapidly growing companies (e.g., in terms of sales/revenue) versus slow growth companies or even industries in decline (e.g. tobacco) - Corporate Growth dimension (fast to slow)

⦁ 30) Companies hitting record stock price highs versus companies that are hitting record lows - Market Sentiment dimension (high to low)

It's almost idiosyncratic, as one can invest on a myriad number of dimensions. In weighing each investment with investment style, I'm reminded of the French philosopher and essayist Michel de Montaigne: "There never were, in the world, two opinions alike, no more than two hairs, or two grains; the most universal quality is diversity."

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I do not know if these are investing styles, but I broke each one on how we approached them while working for the newsletter.

1.Investor Risk tolerance vs volatility. High vs low. Normally directed toward a customer. After a risk profile evaluation, a rank of 1-5 was developed to give us a rule of thumb on how to proceed to invest.

2.Tax efficiency. High vs low. Took into consideration investment vehicles, such as Roth vs Trading account.

3.National, vs local vs international. Based on these we broke those up into categories. For the investment clubs I belonged to, we normally would take a vote to rank them for future study. Local was very popular.

4.Quality of earnings (consistency) vs valuation. High vs low. We would pay up for a higher valuation. We had a sliding scale based on P/E ratio 1-10, 11-15, 15-20 etc.

5.Large stock vs small stock. Did not have a scale but categorized them, labeling “emerging growth”.

6.Growth vs Income. Very important for the newsletter. For individual customers, that was also based on a risk profile.

7.Momentum vs growth (high vs low)- subcategory for growth. For momentum, we had a limit on how much we paid for the earnings

8.Sector vs individual stock ( ranked based on leadership). One of Investor Business Daily methods. They believed that the sector is just as important as a stock.

9. Income vs total return (high to low).

Question 1

The first edition was written in 1934. This was an environment of profound loss, not only in a financial sense, but emotionally and spiritually too. My previous boss Walter Pearson lived during that time and had to drop out of school during the ninth grade and work at a diner to feed his family. I learned through second hand stories about those tough times. So it does not surprise me he wanted to take a conservative approach.

Question 2. That leads into his investing approach of margin of safety and intrinsic value. The book was created to develop a system where safety of capital came first, and value was sought in the long run, not by chasing the next day, trend etc. When the ground is always shifting beneath you, it's hard to have a firm foundation.

Question 3. I want to go back to re-evaluate margin of safety and intrinsic value. I have recently joined a value website/ community as a help, as they constantly go through the stocks they like. They also have a built-in DCF calculator. I use software to chart the long and short term movement compared to its average (P/E, Price/sales). I also use a 5 percent yield as a floor for a quality company.

I understand that book value and other valuation methods have adapted over time as companies have trended toward asset lite business models, however over the last 10 years, I have had a hard time willing to pay for certain stocks because, in my opinion, indexing and ETFs tend to skew its valuation. I believe that those that invest in these products often do not concern themselves with valuation, and overpay for mediocre performance.

Question 4

To me an investment is a long term core holding where the overall purchase met and often exceeded its initial goals and matched. Example long term holding of Apple as a stock.

A speculation to me is a stock that I am reacting to based on new information. An example would be my purchase of Time Warner based on an interview with John Malone and the then CEO, and later comments from Professor Scott Galloway. That information led me to buy shares quickly without rigorous review that I should have done. This is one of the examples I was lucky with, as many other “high fiers” I have lost money on.

I believe he chose his words specifically to create the framework for his investing system as those definitions have not changed and have created an anchor for us to go back to.

Both the words intrinsic value and margin of safety separate this approach from others.

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